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  Steve Hassan Interviews XJW elder, Roberto di Stefano, at ICSA Conference in Italy

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. friends

  trieste, italy - icsa conference - july 6, 2013. both roberto di stefano and steve hassan were speakers at the conference.

  you can see the hassan interview on his website.

  here's the link:http://freedomofmind.com/media/video.php?id=59.

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  "Abstain from blood" reasoning

  by Wayward Son in

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  2. medical

  most of the scriptures pertaining to the use of blood are straight forward.

  "do not eat blood.

  at acts 15 it uses the words "abstain from...".

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  Most of the scriptures pertaining to the use of blood are straight forward. "Do not eat blood."

  At Acts 15 it uses the words "abstain from..."

  Browsing Yahoo Answers this morning I noticed one of the beliefs that would help identify the true Christian religion.

  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqBQapG8IiWeDScTTGH8RWnty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20130728063403AA4oUCB

  Taking blood into body Gen. 9:3, 4; Lev. 17:14;
  through mouth or veins Acts 15:28, 29
  violates God’s laws

  To extract an interpretation such as "[Do not] take blood into body through mouth or veins" - especially after the Jews already knew for centuries what the "do not eat" commandment meant, would require the same illogic that would cause someone to avoid penicillin because to law says "Don't use drugs."
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  Shocking talk from 2013 District Convention urges parents to shun disfellowshipped children

  by cedars in

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  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yldwe_6jsu.

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  Talking points for reasoning with JWs

  by bluecanary in

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  2. bible

  i've emailed this to several people now so figured i might as well post it and share with all.

  the following information has been compiled from various sources on the web, including jwfacts.com and free minds.

  a fraction of it is from my own mind.

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  Did it trip your brain when non-JW Christians got persecuted?

  by Wayward Son in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the foretold turn of gubberment on religion hasn't begun yet.

  that event is supposed to happen with a "swift pitch", an event that will be unmistakable at it's onslaught.

  for the time being, any violence toward "babylon the great" cannot be attributed to the fulfillment of revelation 18.. .

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  Why, yes it did, Wayward. I could never understand how that could be.

  BTW, awesome thread!
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  Magotan's Story

  by magotan in

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  2. experiences

  hi all, i've posted here in crisis a few weeks ago.

  i recently have finally taken the time to write out my entire story.

  i knew i had to come out to my parents and family about everything, my sexuality, and my issues with the jehovah's witnesses.

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  ... to read later.
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  Did it trip your brain when non-JW Christians got persecuted?

  by Wayward Son in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the foretold turn of gubberment on religion hasn't begun yet.

  that event is supposed to happen with a "swift pitch", an event that will be unmistakable at it's onslaught.

  for the time being, any violence toward "babylon the great" cannot be attributed to the fulfillment of revelation 18.. .

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  The foretold turn of Gubberment on religion hasn't begun yet. That event is supposed to happen with a "swift pitch", an event that will be unmistakable at it's onslaught. For the time being, any violence toward "Babylon the Great" cannot be attributed to the fulfillment of Revelation 18.

  Only Christ's true followers were supposed to suffer persecution for their faith. So when non-JW Christian persecution appeared in the news, what kind of confusion, if any, did it conjur up in your mind?

  We had one elder in our congregation explain that other religions were not being persecuted for following Jesus, they were being persecuted for NOT following Jesus.

  Huh?
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  Jehovah Will Put it in Their Minds

  by ctrwtf in

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  2. friends

  just mulling over the demise of religion in general as we humans progress away from fear of the unknown.. i was wondering when some country or group will try to outlaw religion.

  then i recalled how an all out attack on religion is what is supposed to trigger armageddon.

  after 9/11 the first thing george bush said was that islam is not the problem, extremist terrorists are the problem.

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  The operation of error is strong with this one.
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  My Study: "Did a 'Governing Body' govern Paul?"

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  Geez Doug. You don't do anything small, do you?
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  Britain | Jehovah's Witnesses hushed up child sex scandal | July 16, 2013

  by jwleaks in

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  2. child-abuse

  church officials hushed up a child sex scandal in their ranks and refused to co-operate with police.. .

  jehovah witness ministerial servant gordon leighton admitted sexually abusing a child when he was confronted by his church elders, a court heard.. but during the official police investigation, the 53-year-old who made headlines in the 1990s when wife yvonne, 28, died after refusing a blood transfusion after childbirth on religious grounds denied any illegal wrongdoing.. and when detectives asked elders simon preyser, harry logan and david scott to make statements about the confession, all three refused and said what they had heard was confidential.. for three years, the elders refused to co-operate with the criminal investigation and kept up that stance when the case was brought before newcastle crown court after the victim made a complaint to police.. each was issued with a witness summons which they fought to overturn before being ordered to testify by judge penny moreland citing public interest.. their barrister richard daniels said the men had a duty to god not to breach confidence.. he added: privileged communication between members of the congregation and ministers is an absolute right and duty and there is no power in law to breach such a confidence.. judge moreland said: it is apparent that the three elders who were present when this conversation took place are in possession of relevant evidence as to a point which is of real significance in this case.. they claim the right of confidentiality, they claim that what they heard said by the defendant during the course of that meeting ought to be subject to privilege, as ministers of religion.. judge moreland refused to withdraw the summonses and said: public interest is clearly in favour of this evidence being given.. what was said by the defendant on that occasion is of great significance in the trial.. despite the judges ruling, the men still refused to make statements to police until just hours before they were called before the jury.. leighton, who has since been expelled from the church at lambton kingdom hall in washington, denied two charges of indecency with a child and seven of indecent assault.. he was yesterday found guilty of two charges of indecency with a child and six of indecent assault.

  he was found not guilty of one indecent assault charge, on the direction of the judge.. he was remanded in custody until he is sentenced next month but warned he is facing a lengthy spell behind bars.. prosecutor katherine dunn told the court the victim, who is now an adult, broke her silence in 2009.. the court heard how at a special church meeting, leighton admitted sexual abuse and made excuses for his behaviour.. miss dunn said: the elders conducted their own investigation.

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  Well its official then, the JW's are exactly like the catholics - Crazy Guy

  Well, not exactly.

  CHURCH officials hushed up a child sex scandal in their ranks and refused to co-operate with police.

  

  Pennsylvania Catholic official is first to be convicted for mishandling abuse claims

  

  The Catholic Church gets it.